What did the early Church Fathers believe regarding the eternal fate of the wicked? The traditional view that the wicked suffer eternally makes little use of the Old Testament. If no one in two thousand years of church history has taught a doctrine, it is almost certainly incorrect. In my opinion #3 has the weakest support. The manner in which the rebellious are kept alive in spite of ‘deathly’ anguish is also un-described. The teaching that people and fallen angels will be tormented throughout eternity contradicts the Bible’s teaching that God is altogether victorious at the end of history. For the first few centuries of new covenant church history, most who wrote on hell simply employed biblical language. Augustine is one simple opinion and came a couple hundred years after the concensus of 3 letters written some 100 years of less after the last apostle to die. Irenaeus was bishop of Lugdunum in Gaul (now Lyon, France) at the end of the second century. It could be argued that when he says, “…to the doom of fire at once without ending and without break” he means the fire will never end, and the burning of the wicked will never end, but he does not mean their torment will never end. 3And you shall tread down the wicked, for they will be ashes under the soles of your feet, on the day when I act, says the LORD of hosts. Sentient beings do not suffer eternally, as the traditional view of hell teaches. If you have any issues, please call the office at 385-246-1048 or email us at info@carm.org. Similarly, the Lord’s plan for “evildoers” is to “cut off the remembrance of them from the earth…evil brings death to the wicked” (Ps. “Death,” losing life, and “perishing” are not easily read as signifying another kind of life, viz. Annihilationism in the New Testament Close. VI. Hell is eternal in consequence, not duration. Responding to Objections I tend to agree with you about your assessment of the Christians WK quoted. (Revelation 20:12), Are they then cast into fire and burned? 20:47–48). He doesn’t subject them to eternal torment. ( Log Out /  The Bible is pretty clear that the fire of God is for refinement. Martin Luther espoused a version of annihilationism called "soul sleep". save hide report. with no one to quench them” (Isa. The big point we are building up to here is that the early church fathers DID NOT believe in eternal torment. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell, Is 66:24 And they shall go out and look on the dead bodies of the men who have rebelled against me. The trick is that annihilationism is something in addition to this belief. 4:12). so their root will become rotten, Why are some Christians uncomfortable with the doctrine of Hell? But I think for the vast majority of people who reject the traditional notion of hell, they are just asserting their emotions and intuitions over the Bible and the traditional interpretations of the early church. Gregory of Nazianzus (ca. Malachi tells us that the judgment day shall come “burning like an oven” and “all the arrogant and all evildoers will be stubble.” The judgment thus “shall burn them up” (Mal. Claiming it has been “the overwhelming testimony of the Christian church over the last 2,000 years” seems to discount the range of views that existed for hundreds of years in the Early Church, and continued throughout the centuries, and still exist in the Eastern church (and now in many places, thanks to the Internet informing us of the views). . I’m also pro-life and yet liberal on most other issues. The OP asked for the majority belief of the early church. Now, Scripture certainly teaches that the wicked are punished eternally, but not that the wicked endure eternal punishment. While I am not completely convinced of this position, I think it is worthy of serious consideration. This day is elsewhere described as a day for “the destruction of the godless” (2 Pet. 10:39). For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to men in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit. This fire also destroys all the matter in the Universe, btw. shove, if I have to choose (as I usually do) between a church with otherwise good, biblical, evangelical theology that also believes in eternal torment in Hell, and one whose only upside is that it teaches annihilationism (as opposed to just tolerating it among its members), I will … As in the Old Testament, the wicked are frequently depicted as being destroyed by fire. These passages seem to contradict the traditional view that damned souls are in fact never destroyed but rather endure endless torment. However, this view creates some…, What Is the Kingdom of God? 100:5; 103:9; 106:1; 107:1; Ps 118;1-4, 29; 136:10-26). a year of recompense for the cause of Zion. Is 66:24 really reminds of the story of the rich man & Lazarus. “Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.” 2 Thessalonians 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power, Rev 22 Rev 20:6 These passages speak of the wicked being tormented “day and night forever and ever.” However, these passages are not as decisive against the annihilationist’s view as they might initially seem. 2. We are talking about the first 5 centuries after Christ. And in doing so, it will cause them to burn forever, instead of dying. But once they are punished and destroyed, it is forever. ..and may enter in through the gates into the city.For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. The Scripture says, ‘The soul who sins shall die.’, Ezekiel 18:20. And, ‘…breaking one and the same bread, which is the medicine of immortality, and the antidote to prevent us from dying, but [which causes] that we should live for ever in Jesus Christ’. That is, there is no one word that is translated into the English word "hell." I would suggest that separation from God, His presence, His will and commandements is “hell”. 5:13; 7:3, 6; 20:21; Ps. Annihilationism: Those who are damned are blotted out of existence and no longer conscious. Perhaps the most significant example of this for our purposes is Isaiah 34:9-10, for it closely parallels the two passages in Revelation. 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And this implies that the soul of the wicked will not go on existing in a conscious state after it has been destroyed. This view is very common and you might even be nodding your head in agreement with that description. (“Against Heresies” 1:10:10), The penalty increases for those who do not believe the Word of God and despise his coming. Its true I’m more of a progressive Christian, but I believe in hell and heaven as real places. Therefore, annihilationism simply can't work in light of what the Scriptures teach. What I’m saying is that I am familiar with probably most of the literature defending annihilationism from the early twentieth century until now (and sporadic example prior to that). Also His plan is to have all men be saved (Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. But I think for the vast majority of people who reject the traditional notion of hell, they are just asserting their emotions and intuitions over the Bible and the traditional interpretations of the early church. Would we call a human being good or merciful – or anything other than cruel — who retaliated on his foes with this sort of unmitigated, insatiable vengeance? It is also called annihilationism. It is frequently said of the wicked that they will be “destroyed.” Jesus contrasts the wide gate that “leads to destruction” with the narrow gate that “leads to life” (Matt. I go back and forth myself. 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? Stott’s belief in annihilationism ran contrary to the beliefs of the Anglican Church … Post was not sent - check your email addresses! So too, Christ is said to have come to “abolish death and [bring] life and immortality to light through the gospel” (1 Tim. There is certainly a need to warn unbelievers of the impending judgment of God. But the godless and those who have not turned wholly to God will be punished in fire equally unending, and they shall have from the very nature of this fire, divine as it were, a supply of incorruptibility (“Apology” 44:12–13), Therefore after this there is neither death nor repeated resurrections, but we shall be the same that we are now, and still unchanged–the servants of God, ever with God, clothed upon with the proper substance of eternity; but the profane, and all who are not true worshippers of God, in like manner shall be consigned to the punishment of everlasting fire–that fire which, from its very nature indeed, directly ministers to their incorruptibility. Universalism, Annihilationism, And The Early Church I've addressed the early church's view of Hell in previous posts on this blog, but I think some recent developments warrant a return to the subject. A person will reap exactly what they sow. xiv + 300. Surely, his end will be in the lake of fire, which is the second death. Near death experience research proves of a hell and a heaven, but its not exactly like they bible say. There are also some early Christian writers who wrote letters indicating that they believed in annihilationism. 6:8; 1 John 5:11). Moreover, all who are “enemies of the cross” have “destruction” as their final end (Phil. However, how many of those persons, bushes, etc… are even DAMAGED by the flame? 2 Chr. The wicked shall be so thoroughly destroyed that they shall not even be remembered (Ps. They believed it was eternal, conscious punishment and clearly argued against both univeralism and annihilationism. For their worm shall not die, their fire shall not be quenched, and they shall be an abhorrence to all flesh. Arnobius, an African Christian apologist who died in 330 was outspoken and very clear on the issue. Gen 49:26; Ex 40:15; Nu 25:13; Ps 24:7). Just to be clear, I am one of those Christians who holds to the traditional doctrine of hell. 29:20). Clothed with ones actions as in Dan 12 ( this reminds me as the mount of transfiguration). While their writings are not canonical (they are not on par with the words of the Bible), they do help us to see what those closest to the apostles first understood as Biblical Truth. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.” (notice cast alive). Because it seems to me that the biblical case for annihilationism, the view that eventually all unsaved people will be utterly destroyed and wiped out, is extraordinarily strong. none shall pass through it forever and ever.”. We aren’t talking about the first guy or two post-Paul. 8:36) and that when “the tempest” of God’s judgment passes, “the wicked are no more…” (10:25, emphasis added). 15:28 it would seem that the early church offered baptism for the dead in some lost ritual, the idea soon became that the dead were not only without hope, but doomed. Is Hell a real place? 21, 1:32). It was birthed in the post-Enlightenment era (17th -18th centuries) when secular minded scholars began to…, Here is an excellent post by my good friend Roger Olson in which he makes the case that Open Theism should be embraced by Arminians as an orthodox, if somewhat non-traditional, form of their faith. (Romans 7:18), Do I think it takes an eternity for God’s unquenchable fire to remove all of the godlessness in the world (in order that a human can be around forever in that fire)? 4:4; 7:20; 21:12; Ezek. 69:28, cf. If not, then the birth of Christ will be aborted spiritually as much it is in a actual physical abortion ( Gal 2 – my little children in whom I labor till Christ in formed in you – this was written to Christians). Each metaphor depicts total annihilation. The early Church Fathers were also absolutely firm on the reality of an eternal hell, as the following quotes show. (Letter to the Ephesians 16:1-2). Ignatius was well aware of the fact that immortality must be obtained. John Stott also believed in the concept of annihilationism, i.e., that the souls of the lost are eventually allowed to perish instead of burning throughout eternity in the lake of fire of a literal hell. Larry V. Crutchfield, "The Apostle John and Asia Minor as a source of premillennialism in the early Church Fathers," Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society 31.4 (Dec. 1988): 411-427. pdf : Brian E. Daley, The Hope of the Early Church: Eschatology in the Patristic Age. Is it true that the Annhilationist view is popular among the early church? Acts 3:21) if in fact many creatures shall forever exist in hostile rebellion to God? (2 Peter 3:10). Unfortunately, some (but not all) early Church fathers accepted the Hellenistic view and consequently read into Scripture the view that the wicked suffer unending torment. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. In this passage Isaiah says that the fire that shall consume Edom shall burn “[n]ight and day” and “shall not be quenched.” Its smoke “shall go up forever” and no one shall pass through this land again “forever and ever.” Obviously, this is symbolic, for the fire and smoke of Edom’s judgment isn’t still ascending today. The early church was predominantly Jewish, of course. Posted by 18 days ago. And finally, “[t]he evil have no future; the lamp of the wicked will go out” (24:20). The early church was split almost 50/50 for Universalism / Never ending Hell, annihilationism is the least supported. It should be noted however that as Tertullian is one of the most explicit about the punishment, he is the latest of the writer’s presented here. In the powerful words of a later author, the wicked “shall be as though they had never been” (Obed. This is consistent with Jesus’ teaching that those who try to find life apart from God end up losing it (Matt. The Church has never made any pronouncement in this regard” (pp. wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever. The Gentiles brought with them a Greek, not Jewish, world view full of preconceptions, a sort of Platonic lens through which they viewed everything including scripture. In other words, unbelievers will not experience eternal punishment in a literal hell, but will simply vanish (or have their souls extinguished) instead. On the other hand, Islam will give you another solution. I’m really not qualified to speak on this matter, since I am not a historical theologian; moreover, it is pointless to comment on how such a transition might have happened when the case for the early church believing in annihilationism to begin with is so comically weak. How can we affirm that Christ shall be over all (Eph. or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 2:3). 1:28, 30–31). They all denote total annihilation. Are the unsaved resurrected? Yet, it would be better for them if they were not deathless. 6:16). SCHOOLS USER LOGIN. Life and immortality are connected with following God, death with following Satan. From generation to generation it shall lie waste; – Lake of Fire. So what are some of the examples you have in mind when you describe the “vast majority.” It’s not something you can now dismiss, having made this claim that portrays people who hold my view so poorly. Nahum says that in the judgment the wicked “are consumed like dry straw” (Nahum 1:10). “Second Clement” reportedly a recorded sermon, and Clement discusses the nature of Hell: If we do the will of Christ, we shall obtain rest; but if not, if we neglect his commandments, nothing will rescue us from eternal punishment (“Second Clement” 5:5), But when they see how those who have sinned and who have denied Jesus by their words or by their deeds are punished with terrible torture in unquenchable fire, the righteous, who have done good, and who have endured tortures and have hated the luxuries of life, will give glory to their God saying, ‘There shall be hope for him that has served God with all his heart!’ (“Second Clement” 17:7). I will not comment on all the fathers, but I wish point out a few things: 1) Ignatius of Antioch – While at first it may seem that Ignatius argues in favor of never-ending conscious torment, he says no such thing. 3:7). You shall go out leaping like calves from the stall. I didn’t come to this understanding lightly. It is not something we are born with. It experienced a resurgence in the 1980s when several prominent theologians including John Stott were prepared to … And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell.. Tertullian’s text is a little trickier to navigate. 29:20). Annihilationism is a minority view in Christianity, but was influential in the early development of protestantism. I recently read a post by Paul Helm about universalism in the early church. But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”. – Placed with hypocrites – Matt 25:41 They “shall be cut off…and…will be no more; though you look diligently for their place, they will not be there“ (Ps. So too, if anyone “destroys the temple of God, God will destroy that person” (1 Cor. 34:16, 21). I am swayed to believe annihilation because sometimes it seems like that’s what scripture says, but I don’t choose it because it’s soft. 185–254) in De Principiis. her land shall become burning pitch. Eternal, conscious punishment for eternity. It is directly related to the doctrine of conditional immortality, the idea that a human soul is not immortal unless it is given eternal life. In this essay I will present biblical arguments in its defense and then conclude with several other supporting arguments. In light of the actual written evidence from the Early Church Fathers themselves, this pleading seems simply incredible. He makes some good points, but doesn't go into much depth. The elect do not undergo an eternal process of redemption. John 3:15–16; 10:28; 17:2; Rom. 2:9). The Old Testament actually has a good deal to say about the ultimate destiny of those who resist God. In contrast, the earliest creeds of the church were more generic in their teaching on final judgment and allowed for either traditionalism or annihilationism. Hell is a place of torment in which the rebellious are in anguish and pain 21:4) if throughout eternity there shall be “weeping and gnashing of teeth” as multitudes suffer an endless second death? It seems impossible to accept that the wicked have “no future” if in fact they shall never cease to experience an eternal future in hell. So too, the damned do not undergo an eternal process of punishment or destruction. After the first generations, as early as Irenaeus in the 2 nd Century A.D., there were Christians who even looked at the existence of hell as a good thing. From Please Convince Me. Judge and ye shall not be judged, condemn not and ye shall be forgiven, forgive and ye will be forgiven. Finally, we must remember the repeated teaching of the Old Testament that while God’s anger endures for a moment, his love endures forever (Ps. 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. The belief in Annihilationism has appeared throughout Christian history, but has always been in the minority. Annihilationism stands in contrast to both belief in eternal torture in the lake of fire, and the belief that everyone will be saved (universal reconciliation or “universalism“). certainly falls little short of annihilationism proper. We all know what the Kingdom of God is, right? I’m saying that virtually all of it argues from exegesis. So, if you’re wondering what a handful of the early church fathers thought of hell, here is Glenn Peoples on the topic: I’ll really thought about this and this is what comes to mind. Death is separation from God as seen in the garden of Eden. I, and annihilationists that I know, put a lot on the judgement and wrath of God. 7:13). I’ve done alot of research into this topic and I believe I’ve come up with a view that reconciles annihilationism and the doctrine of eternal torment. Why doesn’t God gives us more evidence that he exists? How can we accept the Scriptural affirmation that all creatures in heaven and earth shall bow before the throne (Phil. However, I believe that annihilationism is the most consistent with the teachings of both the Old and New Testaments, as well as of the beliefs of the early Church. We thus have a precedent set in the New Testament for learning about the fate of the wicked in the Old Testament. The strong shall become like tinder, 2:6). 300–374) and Gregory of Nyssa (ca. I like to look at 1 Timothy 4:10 (10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.) Over such the second death has no power.. Rev 21:8 they and their work shall burn together, ( Log Out /  Annihilationism removes that problem with the guillotine. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. Question: "Is annihilationism biblical?" And while I have the utmost respect…, In this video blog, Greg outlines the penal substitution view of atonement which says that the Father poured out his wrath on Jesus instead of us so that we could be forgiven. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1991. pp. 1[a] “For behold, the day is coming, burning like an oven, when all the arrogant and all evildoers will be stubble. Nope. This became the dominant view of hell throughout Church history. Debating forgiveness: must a person admit wrongdoing before being forgiven? I don’t think that wanting to feel “nicer” than others, or wanting to be liked by others, is a good rationale for overruling the text and the traditional interpretations. Sentient beings do not suffer eternally, as the traditional view of hell teaches. Is it ok to judge people? 2. Islam says that God will regenerate, or continually heal cursed humans so they might experience the pain and burning for all eternity, without actually getting immortality. Also Jesus said Father forgive them for they know not what they do. Here is a quick historical survey of the EARLY CHURCH regarding their surprising beliefs about HELL: THE FIRST 500 YEARS: In the first five centuries there were six known theological schools. The scriptures suggest they still have their body ( the spiritual realm and physical realm are joined together again as it was in the garden of Eden). Majority---yep 3 versus 1. 6:9). Along the same lines, Scripture’s references to an “unquenchable fire” and “undying worm” refer to the finality of judgment, not its duration (Isa. and like a garden without water. First of note, the word "hell" is not in the Bible. What did the early Church Fathers have to say about the doctrine of eternal punishment? The one who overcomes will not be hurt by the second death.’. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. 1 Timothy 2:3-5) So go and love other people and do good to all. It can’t be that I’m the exception, because virtually none of the literature I know of does what you imply. To all who refused to comply with the covenant God had established, for example, the Lord vowed to “blot out their names from under heaven” (Deut. 41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: Matthew 25:32-42) I differ with conservative theology on hell. shove, if I have to choose (as I usually do) between a church with otherwise good, biblical, evangelical theology that also believes in eternal torment in Hell, and one whose only upside is that it teaches annihilationism (as opposed to just tolerating it among its members), I will … Indeed, he vowed to destroy them and the land “like the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah…which the Lord destroyed in his fierce anger…’” (Deut. (Revelation 14:11). 15:42f; 50, 54; Gal. This is not, however, the case with annihilationism. Does this seem like the sort of thing the “Abba” Father of Jesus would do? 1:6). ( It would appear we will be clothed with our actions), Jude 1:12 Annihilationism is the teaching that those who die apart from Christ will simply cease to exist. However, I believe that annihilationism is the most consistent with the teachings of both the Old and New Testaments, as well as of the beliefs of the early Church. Is there a place people go immediately after death? The teaching of Annihilationism is not supported by those who spoke and taught us about the Eternal Hell: 1. There will be no future resurrection of them. Daniel, for example, speaks of all who shall be crushed by the rock of God’s judgment as being “broken.” They become “like the chaff of the summer threshing floor” blown away by the wind “so that not a trace of them [can] be found” (Dan. All directly or indirectly speak of total annihilation. Topics: End Times, In this and the next several blogs that I’ll be writing, I’d like to respond to views of Tony Campolo on several topics related to Christians and politics. He became a Christian and was a powerful and influential apologist for the faith, writing prolifically in defense of the doctrines of orthodoxy: These have further set before us the proofs He has given of His majesty in judgments by floods and fires, the rules appointed by Him for securing His favor, as well as the retribution in store for the ignoring, forsaking and keeping them, as being about at the end of all to adjudge His worshippers to everlasting life, and the wicked to the doom of fire at once without ending and without break, raising up again all the dead from the beginning, reforming and renewing them with the object of awarding either recompense. He writes, ‘For this end did the Lord suffer the ointment to be poured upon His head, that He might breathe immortality into His Church’. 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